The Raton pass, leaving Colorado South toward New Mexico is a teeth-grinding, mostly solid mumbojumbo disorientation much like LSD in the middle of the trip. Saturn spins twenty times the spin of the earth. Pole to pole dimensions a full 10% flatter than the middle. Mostly, what you see out there is hydrogen. Where gravity is high, the idea of place itself as a recession velocity for any galaxy equals the speed of light.